RE: Dealer called me, wants my used Starcaft!
I'm sorry to hear how it has worked out. Nothing like anticipation of something bigger and better, then have to back out of it and be disappointed with the deal.
At least you had the fortitude to hold your ground until you were either satisfied or walk away from it.
Sorry for the situation, but welcome back to the fold (err, Folding Trailer, anyway).
I don't know if it were bigger and better, just more convenient with big fridge and the fact we wouldn't have to pack the camper before putting it down. It was actually a bit smaller. The living area in the PUP is 23'6" while that TT was probably ~18'6". Walking space was more in the TT at that same 18.5' while the campers walking space was 12' though.
What this did show me is that I'm taking way to much camping and packing it inconveniently.
The stove and grill will go by the door now, instead of under the table. That way we can pop down, and still eat and clean up.
The new sterile cabinet with drawers is going. It required to much space and stuff has to be fit perfect to fit it. It's gone, I'll put all of it's contents into the hanging pantry and food will go on the cabinet, and in the cabinets.
Food will be packed into the fridge and shower items will not be dryed then packed. It's easier to just pop the camper back up at home and let the shower and accessories dry out, along with packing and unpacking food in the cooler.
One thing I found out, is that my Mom really liked the Pop Up better and so did my girlfriend's son. Only the girlfriend and me really liked the travel trailer, mainly for it's bigger fridge, higher and easier to access storage areas, and the lack of setup. I also liked the idea of RVing, and not needing to stop at a campground while on a long road trip.
Everything has it's advantages and disadvanges. If I can be comfortable in the camper with the AC running, then I'll keep it. If the AC won't work correctly, and I can't get it fixed to my likeing, then I'll have to get rid of it. I like the cold, you can always add more clothes. That's why I love to camp in early spring and late fall. I really hate the heat, anything over 80 degrees is to hot for me. You really bake since even getting naked (which I won't :) ) does nothing to cool you.
Thanks and have a good one.
Have a good one.
RE: From Pop Up to New Travel Trailer
Well I'm not getting the travel trailer. I pulled out of the deal. You can read my post here about it.
Thanks for everything, have a good one.
RE: Dealer called me, wants my used Starcaft!
Well I'm back to the Light Side. I had a horrible experience today with the PDI on the new travel trailer and pulled out of the deal.
Dealers service person lost the sale for them, but the camper had a lot of issues and maybe why it didn't sell. I wasn't the first to pull out of a deal on this camper. There was another guy previous to me.
I guess being on the lot for 3 years took it's toll as it had a lot of issues that need correcting and the service person actually made them worse.
The edge of the bathroom door was chip and the veneer was peeling. Simple fix, use a touch of wood glue and the veneer would glue right back in place. This was very minor but I didn't want it to keep peeling. They replaced the door with one that wouldn't fit right and it could hardly be opened.
The bunk bed has a ceiling panel on the bottom of it, where a light is mounted. It had a hole. I asked them to just patch it and touch up the scratch. They replaced the panel horribly and didn't even get the trim on right with a gap between bunk edge and plywood.
The caulk needed replacing. They missed areas I pointed out. This was silicone caulk on the campes side wall corners. The self leveling caulk was horrible. It was all cracked and cracking everywhere. They would had to replace all of that. Note to self, self leveling caulk sucks!
Then they forgot to get the hitch. No way to tow without it.
They forgot to add the heat element to the AC.
The AC was moving around and shaking. It moved so much the knobs didn't line up with the interior cover's knob holes.
The stereo had no reception and it was playing the AC hum. Then it wouldn't turn off!
Numerous things were missing they were suppose to replace and didn't.
The wrong manual was in the camper.
They didn't install the TP holder.
The hot water cover lid was loose from the screws being loose. They tightened the heater mounting screws instead, then overtightened them till the tab ears bent and the screw head was nearly pulling through!
The awning was covered in mold on the top and the bottom.
I finally called off the PDI and pulled out of the deal.
They had a check list of problems and service person said he taken care of it all. He left about 60% of the trouble and did nothing and what he did do, was ruin the camper even more.
Management were very very sorry and kept apologizing. I was given all my money back that was held. Now I have to give the bank their check back and cancel out the loan.
Management was very good along with salesman. The owner didn't want to sell me the camper after finding out how bad it was from the man giving me the PDI. He was very sorry and gave my money back without me having to ask.
This was not the service managers, owners, or salesman's fault. It was the service persons fault for lying, saying he had repaired everything and maybe Starcraft's fault for poor quality control on this. I actually don't know if it's Starcraft's fault, or if these problems were do to circumstances while sitting for 3 years at the dealership. These problems may have been from customer neglect and lack of upkeep during the 3 years.
I really don't know, it's the service person's fault mainly, with either customer and upkeep neglect or Starcraft's quality control. It's 2 out of the 3.
So I'm back to the Pop Up. I'll just most likely fix my Pop Up's AC myself, since it's warranty doesn't seem to help me much since the dealer won't troubleshoot. They are only a replacement facility and if it works at the moment, they don't replace. They are not a repair facility, even Dometic Duo Therm told me this before even confronting the dealer. The problem is that the repair shops are just that, repair shops and not camper shops. They probably would damage the camper just trying to set it up. So I'll try to fix it myself. I'll also fix my faulty water pump.
It's up in the air, if I'll keep the camper. Even though this is not Starcraft's fault with the Pop Up, it's just so much of a hassle trying to get things fixed. The AC is just to expensive to buy another.
I'm seriously thinking of fixing it all, selling the Pop Up and going back to the simple, stress free life of no repairs, and tent camping. Perhaps I'm weird, but I don't find fighting to get RV repairs, fun, and I am short on tolerance for this as well.
For now I'm back with the Pop Up. I'll see if I stay with it.
Have a good one.
RE: different manufacturers observations
Wow, I just can't believe that you can't find any better dealers than that. Unfortunately, they are all subpar.
In the Chicago area, we have everything. A Forest River Dealer (Rockwood), Another Forest River Dealer (Palomina, btw, isn't a coachmen product), a Viking dealer (A coachmen product, same dealer as Palomino), Another Rockwood dealer that also has Starcraft, A Jayco dealer, and a Fleetwood dealer.
All have many models of campers out there.
I bought the Starcraft because I felt it the best built out of all.
My rankings are based on quality of build, materials, and craftsmanship. Not price, features, or bang for the buck.
1) Starcraft
2) Jayco
3) Viking (Coachman Clipper is a clone camper)
I won't consider Fleetwood or Forest River, because I feel them to be inferior.
I can't tell you how pleased I'm with Starcraft. I couldn't ask for more in tech support, warranty support or customer service. Answer within a few rings, are there to discuss issues, and will give you an answer.
Good luck in whatever you purchase.
Have a good one.
RE: Opinions on Salem 31QBSS by Forest River
The OP seems to still be using the "Dry Weight" in figuring what he can tow. The GVWR of the TT is what should be used.
I disagree about going by the GVWR. On mine, I have 2 2800 lbs axles giving me my 5600 GVWR. The camper is half that weight factory optioned.
The dry weight shouldn't be used either as it's a fictional number but usually fairly close depending on the model.
What needs to be considered in the actual weigh sticker from the factory that has all the factory installed options. The 3 trailers I've looked at were close but not the same amount of options obviously. Surprisingly, my Starcraft NXP 20DBB has a dry weight of 2740 lbs, has many, many options yet the weigh stick with these options has a total weight of 2825 lbs. Obviously the dry weight is an estimate. The Starcraft Travelstar XLT 21DBB I looked at had a dry weight of ~3320 lbs yet the factory weigh stick was ~3750 lbs. My previous Pop Up, Starcraft 2406 had a dry weight of 2009 lbs yet the factory weigh stick was ~2350 lbs.
So as an average, figure on 300 lbs over the dry weight, optioned. The factory weigh sticker is what really should be checked for accuracy.
Fresh water for my 20DBB is ~250 lbs, plan on using 100 lbs of waste water on the road, and plan to pack about 600 lbs worth of stuff. So roughly 1250 lbs over the dry weight.
On mine I plan to have a total loaded weight of ~3800 lbs. Yet my GVWR is very high at 5600 lbs. Starcraft has many model lines, it's cheaper to use the same size axles on many campers than having to stock so many different axle types.
Of course every camper is different, but the factory weigh sticker is a good place to start, then figure on water that's going to be stored in the tanks (8.3 lbs/gallon) and using a bathroom scale to weigh items being stored.
Have a good one.
RE: TT Recommendation?
Hi there,
Recently purchased a 2005 Nissan Pathfinder. Have WD hitch and air bags installed in the rear coils for levelling assistance.
We are now looking for a TT, and here is the basic criteria we have:
1. Side slide (to expand dining area)
2. Dedicated Queen bed
3. Dedicated bunk beds (possibly single, but double would be nice on the bottom).
Dedicated beds is important to us, don't want to have to remake the beds every night.
Tow capacity on the Pathfinder is stated 600lb hitch, 6000lb towing. The PF already has a substantial factory tranny cooler installed.
Based on the criteria listed, what TT would people recommend? Don't really care about the length (though not too long, want to be safe!)
Thanks
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I just traded my 2005 SE Pathfinder 4X4. This truck is limited to 600 lbs hitch weight. On a typical TT, that's about a 3400 lbs dry weight camper. Roughly a 22' TT. Add ~200 lbs in options, 260 lbs in fresh water, 40 lbs in propane, rougly 100 lbs of waste water in your tanks while traveling, then add about 600 lbs in stored items, then your at 4600 lbs. Typical 13% of total weight, for hitch weight, gives you your maximum 600 lbs hitch weight.
Besides, the payload is only about 1200 lbs leaving only 600 lbs for family members and gear, after the hitch weight is subtracted from your payload.
On top of that, the short 112" wheelbase will not handle longer trailer lengths well at all.
The trailers I was looking at that were within my late 2005 Pathfinder towing and payload limits were the Starcraft NXP 20DBB that I finally am purchasing, the Starcraft Travelstar XLT 21DBB, or Jayco Feather Sport 197.
You'll need a 1/2 ton truck for the wheelbase and tow capacity if you go with a ultralight weight camper that has your requirements. Even some Ultralights require a 3/4 ton truck when outfitted with the options you require.
Been there, done that, done the math and research.
Good luck on finding a safe combination for your tow rig and camper.
Have a good one.
RE: Opinions on Salem 31QBSS by Forest River
I found an 07 Salem 31QBSS for 14K in good shape. Anyone have an opinion on this brand?
Thanks a bunch for any opinions or advice!
Well I have had a brand spanking new 2005 Forest River and will never own another FR product, ever. Worst build quality, worst customer service, worst warranty support, and worst technical support I would hope, I'd ever encounter.
My camper was $2000 cheaper than all other makes that offered the same floorplan and features. I now know how that $2000 was cut. After seeing, I would had rather spent the extra $2000.
Do a 'Forest River' search in the Travel Trailer, Hybrid, and Pop Up trailer forums and form your own opinion.
Good luck in what ever you choose.
Have a good one.
RE: From Pop Up to New Travel Trailer
Thanks everyone, just counting down the days.:)
Congratulations! I have seen your postings on the popup forums. We have also just moved from a popup to a travel trailer. Took it out for our maiden voyage this past weekend. It was great -- much easier setup and it was great having the stuff in the trailer as opposed to moving it from the truck to the popup.
We have a Jayco JayFlight G2 23FB. So far, so good. We did look at the Starcraft Travel Trailers but we had a bad experience with our starcraft pup (found it was badly made and our lift system also failed on it). I know you have had good experiences with Starcraft but we found the opposite (it took 4 weeks to get parts and we missed half of our camping season because of the length it took to get the parts).
Anyway, again congratulations and welcome to the darkside!
I don't blame you from staying away if you had bad experiences. Mine with Forest River were so bad, kid's get punished in my household for using their fowl name.:)
I've had so many excellent dealing with Starcraft, I just have to give them praise. I had a leak in my tarp in one of the outside rolled seams. They gave me no hassle and in fact, made the experience painless as if it never happened. I also get great tech support from them, and they answer after the first few rings, then actually have answers! I found my 2007 PUP better built than 'any' of the manufacturers in 2006.
The dealer actually had a "USED" 2008 Jayco Jayflight 19 BH. I really liked it, but it was ~$1000 more than the new Starcraft camper, had no warranty since the dealer was considered the 2nd owner (only transferable to second owner), and the dinette bed was small (3' X 5'11")and short and the sofa bed (3'9" X 5'11") was also short. The 19BH is my favorite floorplan though. It also had a lot of fancy features I don't have on the Starcraft.
The downside for the 19BH is that I have tall friends and family, and they couldn't comfortably sleep on either the dinette bed or sofa bed. It's also very heavy (1,000 lbs heavier than the Starcraft optioned from the factory) for a smaller trailer being it's all made with wood and insulation instead of insulated aluminum laminate.
I tried to deal on the Jayco but the dealer said he couldn't let it go for what I would had paid for it. Also having no warranty, for the higher price they were asking, would not be a smart decision.
As much as I liked the Jayco, the Starcraft has a much larger U dinette bed at 3'10" X 7' . We can all sit at the table and eat as it has room on the table for 5 to eat. The Jayco really couldn't even sit 2 on each side with it's little 36" bench length.
Everything has it's pluses and minuses. The Starcraft just seemed to be the better choice especially considering it's super light 2825 lbs.
Back in 2006 when I was looking at this 20DBB originally, I was also considering the Jayco Jay Feather Sport 197. Ultimately determined it was to expensive, to heavy for it's size, to small, and had to big of a chunk of the bed corner (for oven door to open) missing to sleep comfortably on. Beside the Jayco dealer here is unethical IMO. I got into a verbal fight with the manager in front of all the other customers to see, over his stupidy. Now I would never go back and unfortunately, my Starcraft dealer said they likely couldn't fully support any repairs that the Jayco would need due to not be an authorized dealer.
Glad your having fun with your camper. In the future, when we are ready to stop pulling the camper to try different campgrounds, we'll likely get a 30' TT to permanently park. Right now, I wouldn't want to pull a 27' TT or bigger around. My TT measures 22', bumper to hitch.
Have a good one.
RE: Dinette Bed Strength
Our table broke with my 89 pound 11 year old sleeping on it. We ordered a new table and now use a piece of plywood for sleep time.
Wow, I was going to bring this up again as I just traded in the PUP for a new TT. We really need to use the dinette table as we only have a double bed/single bunk bed, TT. It just so happens to be the exact NXP 20DBB model you have except a 2006 without the front window option.
Did you use 1/2" plywood?? Did you need any reinforcement or supports for the wood plank. Now that I know who will be camping with us, it will need to support the weight of adults totally 450 lbs.
I'm assuming the the dinette support runners that are ~1" x 1", that actually holds the table/board, will be up to the task of holding this type of weight.
I don't have the table yet to take any measurements or anything. The PDI is scheduled for this coming Thursday. I just need to get a plan here because we'll surely have guests for every upcoming trip, that we will need to sleep them on the dinette bed.
Thanks and have a good one.
RE: Dealer called me, wants my used Starcaft!
When is pick up, Mike?
I should be bringing the camper home this Thursday. Hopefully the new air conditioner heating element will be installed and the tub shower surround (unless the surround is on back order).
Can't wait, I feel like a little kid waiting for Christmas morning.:B
Thanks and have a good one.
RE: From Pop Up to New Travel Trailer
Welcome to the "dark side"! :) We've sure enjoyed the relative lack of setup time & effort, and being able to keep so much in the trailer, instead of lugging it back & forth between TV & PUP as we did in the old days.
You WILL, however, see a big difference in the MPGs. It all has to do with height and wind resistance; nothing you can do about it except drive a little slower and grin & bear it.
I don't think I could drive any slower without getting a ticket. I drive between 60 - 65 mph to keep from having a blowout and it's just safer when towing something. This is even in those 75 mph speed limit areas. Getting tailgated is so fun.:R
Thanks and have a good one.
From Pop Up to New Travel Trailer
Well I'm moving from the Pop Up forum to here, but I'll still be visiting of course.
I just had an awesome deal come my way. Back in 2006 I was looking at a 2006 Starcraft NXP 20DBB. Very light for the tow vehicle back then, which was a 2005 V6 Nissan Pathfinder 4X4. It's walls, floor, and roof are all welded aluminum framed laminate. It's dimensions are 22' long and 7'1" wide. While having a smaller living area next to the 30' monsters out there, it can seat 5 - 6 comfortably and sleep 5 comfortably. Tons of storage and a lot of conveniences.
This model has the single door 5.0 CF refrigerator but I think it'll work better for us because it actually has more of the needed refrigerator area than the double door 6.0 CF refrigerator which has more freezer room. The 5.0 CF freezer is just fine for all of our frozen meats and ice cream but the refrigerator room is heaven. My girlfriend was so giddy, she though of all the the food should could put in there. PLUS she wouldn't need to worry about a cooler and if the ice was melted.
It doesn't have a microwave but I have 2 I can use in it and it lacked a tub surround which I'm having installed.
It's going to be great! Not only can I camp in it, I can actually RV in it by not needing campgrounds to use it.
The 2007 Starcraft 2406 Pop Up had an AC problem that was intermittent and I was frustrated. I told the service manager I was going back to tent camping and selling the Pop Up. Next morning I got a call from the owner wanted to swap my Pop Up for the 20DBB travel trailer I almost bought initially instead of the Pop Up.
At the time, I wanted small payments and thought the bathroom featured Pop Up would suite us. The bathroom was great, but now setup time and break down time was more with a water heater to worry about, and a 25 gallon blue tote to catch the water from the shower and the sink. Beside 2 separate hose were now needed as well.
Also, all the shower items would need to be dry and put away (soap holder, wash cloth hangers, shampoo basket). Also the hoses and water items would need to be dry even when using sterlite containers. I'm allergic to mold and didn't want to give any way for it to grow.
Besides that we found the Pop Up setup/break down easy at 15 minutes to get it up and 25 to get it down. However the packing of everything in the Pop Up before it could be put down got to be tiresome. Everything needed to be cleaned, dried, and packed away before I could even pop down the camper.
I'll be honest it was our fault as we like to bring everything with us, but we want to be comfortable with creature comforts for longer and stays. Even on shorter trips, those things still stay on the floor so they have to be setup regardless.
The truck (and SUV previously) needed to be packed with chairs, blue tote, games, toys, tackle boxes, fishing poles, cooler, luggage, and the such.
Not the Pop Up break down or setup, but the packing in the Pop Up and truck what was really wearing us down since we like to bring the house.:) Now I see why when we tent camp, it seems so much more relaxing.:)
Well with the new camper it has more storage than I even thought it would have. We can put everything that was in the Pop Up and the truck in the camper in storage cabinets and in the under bed storage area, and keep the camper floor absolutely clear. We may still bring a smaller cooler for drinks on the way though, but we'll keep it in the truck.
Since I'm not a fortune teller and in 2006, gas was high back then, I decided to go with another Pop Up to keep it affordable to drive and to store the camper at home.
Now with the new campers welded aluminum framed laminate, and 7'1" width, it's only 500 lbs heavier than the Pop Up by going from both camper's factory weigh sticker in the cabinets!! Hopefully the travel trailer will not take to much more gas mileage than the Pop Up because these two factors. I know the 9' height will be the main mileage killer though.
My first camper was a 2005 Forest River Freedom 2290. By the experience of owning that JUNK, I'll never own another Forest River camper again. My second Pop Up was the 2007 Starcraft 2406 Pop Up. I still love the floorplan and the quality, and the Starcraft corporate customer service, warranty support, and technical support. These people are the best of the best! The new 2006 Starcraft NXP 20DBB travel trailer is my 3rd camper now and hopefully it for a good long time.
Because the Pop Up was in such great shape, even after being used for 3 seasons, the owner sold the me the TT for the difference of price when they were both new in 2006. So all I had to do was pay the difference it was in 2006. I essentially got to use my Pop Up for 2 years "FREE". No interest, no nothing, as everything I paid into it already would go straight over to the new camper. I'm only paying the difference of price between the 2 campers when they both were new in 2006!
The 2006 is still new and a holdover. Because of it's lightweight, the owner wouldn't discount it and when optioned 'nearly' the same, it was nearly the same price as the slightly better Travelstar XLT 21DBB. The Travelstar is 1000 lbs heavier when optioned though because while it's walls are welded aluminum framed laminate, it's roof and floor are 'wood' laminate.
I'll be picking up the camper next Thursday after they get the tub surround and air conditioner heat element installed.
Hope to be conversing with you all about travel trailers soon.
Have a good one.
RE: Help a guy out! Small Trailer for a Honda Pilot!
I think you'd be fine with the TT I just purchased. It's a 2006 Starcraft NXP 20DBB. In 2008, they went under the Travelstar branch name as a Travelstar XLT SPORT 20DBB.
I bought a holdover 2006. It's optioned weight is 2825 lbs acccording to the factory weigh sticker in the cabinet. Dry weight was 2740 lbs according to brochure. It only lacks a microvawe, and front window. It has the the other options. The reason why it's lighter than the regular Travelstar and slightly more expensive when features are apples to apples is that the NXP/Sport trailers use welded aluminum framed laminate in the walls, floor and roof just like the expensive class A motorhomes. The Travelstar XLTs only use it on their walls while their floors and and roof are still stick built. The welded aluminum framed laminate is more expensive so to keep these competitive, they usually offer less features to keep the cost down.
While this camper is 22' length, it's the same width as a Pop Up at 7'1", helping to keep a smaller frontal area for easier towing and better mileage, while helping to reduce weight. BTW, my standard low wall, no front trunk and no slide out, Pop Up was ~2300 lbs. This travel trailer is only 500 lbs heavier and lighter than many of the bigger Pop Ups on the market today.
The dry hitch weight on mine is said to be ~300 lbs. My old PUP's dry hitch weight was 237 lbs. However when I optioned it with 2 tanks and a battery, the hitch weight jumped to 300 lbs. I expect this campers hitch weight to be ~400 lbs with the propane tanks filled and the camper loaded. I think that should be within the limits of a Pilot. I heard their towing is 4500 lbs so their hitch weight should be no lower than 450 lbs.
This is a roomy trailer that can sleep 5 comfortably with 2 long double beds (permanent and U dinette bed) and a long bunk bed. It also can seat 5 - 6 people at the U dinette for table games when the weather's bad outside.
New, same year prices seem to be ~$12,000 firm across many dealers.
It only lacks 3 main options, a microwave (which is now optional), a conventional oven, and a 6 CF double door refrigerator. The microwave spot isn't big enough for a microwave/convection oven according to Starcraft so a toaster oven setup on the stove lid would have to do. The single door 5 CF fridge, after examining the differences at Dometic's website, actually offers more refrigerator area than the dual door 6 CF model, but obviously less Freezer storage. We tend to need more refrigerator room so this is a benefit for us with the 5 CF fridge.
Well good luck in what ever model you choose, there are far and few small, lightweight campers out there. I know I checked. BTW, the fun finders use combination welded aluminum and stick built construction so they are more heavy than the NXP/Sport models.
Hope this helps, have a good one.
RE: 3 unsolicited offers to buy my PUP
Yep, dealer called me and wanted my PUP. Here's the thread. He has it now and I have his new Travel Trailer. I was able to use my PUP for 2 years Free with the way the deal worked out. No depreciation, interest, or anything!
Deals are there to be had, take advantage of them if you can.
Have a good one.
RE: CRVA/MEP (Canadian Units) vs. RVIA/MEP (U.S. Units)
Just talked to Starcraft corporation and you were right, there's no problem with it at all having the CRVA instead of RVIA.
Thanks and have a good one.
RE: fed up
Unfortunately I read stories all the time just like your over Forest River Junk. I can't even count all the problems I've read of owners having troubles with their Pop Ups and Hybrids. I've read a few threads of TT owners having troubles with their Forest River campers.
I'm not just saying this, I have also lived it with my 2005 Forest River Rockwood Freedom 2290 Pop Up. Absolute Junk that falls apart. Every trip I had major issues. Finally after the 1 year of ownership I traded to a Starcraft. Night and day difference. There's a reason why Forest River products are cheaper than other makes, because they put less quality in them.
Unfortunately you don't have a legal stand as I wish I could had also! As long as they are fixing the problems under warranty, there's no recourse for buying an inferior built product. People do it everyday in other areas when they buy 'made in China'.
Hope you can get it repaired and then just ditch it on a trade like I did. Learn your lesson and don't make the same mistake again.
Hope it all works out for you in the long run.
Have a good one.
RE: Dealer called me, wants my used Starcaft!
When is pick up, Mike?
Well since it has been sitting, I told them not to rush with going over it for the PDI. I'm in no hurry. As soon as I find out some add on prices, then we can finish the paper work. Not sure which company I'll do the financing through yet.
I also might do some tent camping this week. After all, I am on vacation.:)
Soon as I figure it all out, I'll reply.
Thanks and have a good one.
CRVA/MEP for USA use?
Don't know what forum to put it in, perhaps a mod or adm can get this where it needs to go with hopefully some answers.
Here's the post in another forum.
If anyone here can answer, I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks and have a good one.
CRVA/MEP (Canadian Units) vs. RVIA/MEP (U.S. Units)
I put down money on a Starcraft NXP 20DBB travel trailer and it has the CRVA/MEP, but not the RVIA/MEP seal. It's a US unit be used in the US. The dealer has 2 of these the one I'm buying with the CRVA/MEP and the other has the RVIA/MEP seal. However the one with the RVIA/MEP seal has some water damage and mold. So obviously I don't want that one anyhow.
Do I have anything to be concerned about??
Thanks and have a good one.
RE: Dealer called me, wants my used Starcaft!
See now if you had just bought a Fleetwood pup the first time you'd not have had all these trade-in expenses!
hehe. Just good fun. Enjoy the new behemoth! (My guess is the Big Rock dealer)
Actually I lost absolutely nothing in this. I essentially got to use my Starcraft PUP for 2 years without paying for anything. I'm paying no more for the TT than what I would had if I bought the TT back in 2006. That's with using the PUP for FREE for 2 years. That's how good the deal was! I came out ahead for sure on this deal. Was able to get the low payments I wanted, lost no interest, lost no depreciation, and ultimately got the travel trailer I would had bought in 2006.
Ultimately, I was able to use my PUP for 2 years FREE.
Have a good one.
